I think if you just take a look at their stats it is pretty obvious that not only is Martinez worthy of being the main part of a deal like Ramos he is also a better prospect than Ramos.

So despite playing at a higher level and putting up stats that are equal or if not better than Ramos at a younger age has some how turned Martinez into a worse prospect than Ramos.  Not only that, but one of the biggest knocks on Martinez is that he has spent so much time in the minor leagues without being able to crack into the majors, but Ramos has been down on the farm even longer.It is also not like Ramos has been injury free throughout his minor league career spending time on the DL in 2008 and 2009.

Take a look at prospect guru John Sickels’ rankings of the two prospects over the last couple of years.

2010 – 4) Wilson Ramos, C, Grade B-: Power and defense are positives, main question is weak walk rate.
2009 – 3) Wilson Ramos, C, Grade B: Good glove, strong bat.
2008 – Not ranked

2010 – 3) Fernando Martinez, OF, Grade B+: People are now too negative on him. The guy was the equivalent of a college sophomore last year. If a college sophomore got drafted and hit .290/.337/.540 in Triple-A, people would be drooling over him. He’s made significant progress refining his tools. My main concern now is health and durability, which keeps him from ranking higher.
2009 – 2) Fernando Martinez, OF, Grade B+: Still extremely young, though at some point he’s got to produce better than he has. You can flip him with Flores if you prefer the guy closer to the majors.
2008 - 1) Fernando Martinez, OF, Grade B+:.292/.332/.420 for Double-A Binghamton. Production improving, plate discipline still an issue, still very young.

It is also important to keep in mind that Sickels is a Twins fan so there is reason to believe he is sometimes a bit biased towards their prospects, as he should be, and yet Martinez has always been ranked higher and going into the year he actually agreed with me that F-Mart is taking unnecessary criticism.

Wilson Ramos was impressive during his brief stint in the majors early this year and he play a plus defense, but ever since going down to the minors he has been awful.  I think Ramos is a great prospect and worthy of being included in a deal for Lee, but so should the “Teenage Hitting Machine”.  Not to mention if the Mariners really want a closer Josh Thole is a pretty decent player who while he may not have the power or defense of Ramos hits for a higher average and has way better plate discipline.  A deal of Fernando Martinez/Josh Thole/2 more prospects probably Kyle Allen and someone or F-Mart/Reese Havens/and a pitching prospect should be enough to get a deal done for lee.  Any more than that and I would be a little upset with what the Mets traded.

AAA – Buffalo Bisons

Another slugfest for the Bisons. Everyone except Mike Hessman and Mike Cervenak had hits today. J.R. House had the biggest night of anyone with three RBI’s and two extra base hits including a homerun.
AA – Binghamton Mets

The BMets got into an early hole and we’re able to come back from the 3-run deficit thanks to another Reese Havens home run this time in the three-run variety. The man is on fire right now and if he continues on this torrid pace earn a call up come September. His emergence since returning from the injury just makes me want to pass on Zack Cox more and more. They gave up two more runs later in the game, but were not able to fight back a second time.
HiA – St. Lucie Mets

Strong performance from Eric Beaulac. He was dominant allowing just two base runners and striking out six batters over six innings. Joey August has been showing some decent skills lately with four 2-hit games in the teams last six games.
LoA – Savannah Sand Gnats

Great performance by Collin McHugh. He gave up two runs in the very first innings, but only one was earned thanks to another error by Jefry Marte. McHugh finished the game off by retiring 13 straight batters. Pretty strong performance from the top of the order getting on base but going 1-for-12 with RISP just doesn’t cut it.

Cox on the other hand just seems to “safe” of a pick when you don’t pick again until the 89th pick in the draft.  When I say safe I mean it is not smart to take a player with such a low ceiling/high floor like Cox in the Mets situation.  I don’t want Cox because he is not a good player, because he is, I just do not want him because unless he moves to second base his power will be below average and second base is the least of the Mets’s concerns within the system right now as Ruben Tejada is ready to take over once the Mets wise up and cut Luis Castillo and Reese Havens is working his way up through the system with a full head of steam.  Not to mention I like both of these players more than Cox at the moment.

Piliere also says the Mets are also considering Michael Kvasnicka, Christian Colon, and Justin O’Conner.  It would be a HUGE reach to take Kvasnicka so early so he should not even be in the conversation.  Colon is a solid player, although I would not even take him before Cox.  O’Conner on the other hand could be an interesting player to pick especially if the Mets would be planning to use him as a catcher.

I realize I sound like I am contradicting myself that I think Harvey is too risky and Cox is to safe, but what I am trying to say is if you are going to take a college player take someone like Michael Choice, Bryce Brentz, or Chris Sale of he falls.  I know the Mets don’t like to go over slot, but with just one early pick they should go all out and take the best player available he regardless of slot perhaps even buying a high school player out of a strong commitment.

AAA – Buffalo Bisons
One of the worst performers in a win you can ask for from a pitcher.  Bobby Parnell got shelled for 3 runs in just 2 innings of work.  The only positive from Parnell’s outing are the 3 strikeouts and no walks.  Justin Turner has just been gold since being claimed off of waivers.  He has had a hit in every game since coming over and started the ninth inning rally with a single, even scoring the game winning run.  Shockingly, Jesus Feliciano was just one of two starters without a hit.

AA – Binghamton Mets

After early struggles Clint Everts continued a string of 3 scoreless appearances and in his last 5 appearances has given up just 1 run over 6 innings.  Josh Stinson got his second got his second consecutive start and was solid, but nothing special.  Giving up just two hits and getting seven ground ball outs is great, but the 3:1 BB:K leaves a lot to be desired.  Offensively Reese Havens has been on fire lately.  In his last three games he has a staggering four home runs and six RBI’s.  His slugging% in Double-A is up to .773.

HiA – St. Lucie Mets

Game 1 was postponed and game 2 was canceled.

LoA – Savannah Sand Gnats

Just a great performance from Mark Cohoon.  I still don’t know what to think about him going forward, but he was just absolutely dominant tonight.  He did everything you could have asked for by striking guys outs, walking almost no one, keeping the ball on the ground, and giving up just a few hits.  Probably the best pitched game of any starter all year.  The 3-4-5 hitters were 0-for-11 as Wilmer Flores saw his average drop below .300, but luckily the number 9 and number 1 hitters picked up the slack driving in 4 combined runs.

AAA – Buffalo Bisons

AA – Binghamton Mets

HiA – St. Lucie Mets

LoA – Savannah Sand Gnats

AAA – Buffalo Bisons

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Buffalo 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 3 0 Louisville 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 X 3 9 0 Recap | Box | W: Jukich (7-4, 4.35); L: Figueroa, N (6-5, 2.42); SV: Manuel (9) HR: None.

AA – Binghamton Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Connecticut 1 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 0 5 12 0 Binghamton 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 2 X 6 13 0 Recap | Box | W: De La Torre (1-0, 0.96); L: Paterson (2-4, 2.14); SV: Robertson, C (6) HR: CON: Pill 2 (11), Alderson (1), Schoop (1). BIN: Duda (7).

Rough start for Brad Holt who gave up 9 hits and 4 home runs.  Even though he walked none reports were that his command wasn’t great and he did have a high pitch count.  Good night for the offense with Emmanuel Garcia, Ike Davis, Josh Thole, and Jose Coronado had multi hit games.  Lucas Duda hit his 7th homerun and if he  squeeze in 6 more before the end of the season he could go from terrible power to slightly below average and raise his prospect status.

HiA – St. Lucie Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St. Lucie 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 4 11 2 Brevard County 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 X 5 7 2 Recap | Box | W: Rapoza (3-1, 2.23); L: Alvarez, Ma (3-3, 3.67); SV: Aguilar, O (3) HR: BRE: Gindl (12).

Decently encouraging stuff from Scott Moviel as he gave up only 4 hits and was able to keep the ball on the ground getting 6 groundball outs.  Reese Havens continues to hit since his return from the DL and if he gets his averagte up to .275ish with the power he is showing he becomes a B prospect.  A nice note is that Josh Stinson got all his outs via the K.

LoA – Savannah Sand Gnats

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Savannah 0 3 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 7 8 0 West Virginia 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 1 0 6 10 3 Recap | Box | | Game Story: WV W: Orta (1-0, 4.11); L: Alvarado (5-8, 5.23); SV: Cruz, R (19) HR: None.

Eric Beaulac was cruising along through 3 innings before imploding in the 4th inning giving up 4 runs in the inning after facing 6 batters and getting no outs.  Phillips Orta came in to bail him out and wound up picking up the win.  Jean Luc Blaquiere had the best offensive night putting up two doubles to go along with and RBI.

SSA – Brooklyn Cyclones

PPD – (Rain)

Rk1 – Kingsport Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Kingsport 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 1 0 7 11 2 Pulaski 1 2 0 2 2 0 1 1 X 9 14 4 Recap | Box W: Buckborough (2-0, 16.43); L: White, Jo (1-3, 7.97); SV: Valdez (2) HR: KNG: Flagg (4). PUL: Britton (6).

Darrell Ceciliani had the all around great game getting on base 4 times, driving in a run, and getting 2 outfield assists.

Rk2 – GCL Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 R H E GCL Astros 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 2 8 16 0 GCL Mets 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 2 1 7 11 2 Recap | Box W: Schurz, M (1-0, 2.19); L: Valdez, S (0-1, 7.71); SV: Pio (1) HR: AST: Bryan, L (1), Hinze (1). MTS: Rodriguez, Ja (1).

Michael Hebert sighting!

AAA – Buffalo Bisons

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Buffalo 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 1 Louisville 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 1 Recap | Box | W: McNab (4-2, 2.01); L: Ramirez, Ra (5-7, 4.39); SV: Knight (3) HR: BUF: Reyes, A (2).

AA – Binghamton Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Connecticut 0 0 0 0 6 2 0 1 0 9 9 1 Binghamton 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 3 5 1 Recap | Box | W: Bumgarner (7-1, 1.56); L: Niesen (1-5, 7.36) HR: CON: Witter (2), Bumgarner (1). BIN: Tejada (3).

WOW! Eric Niesen gets victimized by the Mad Bum show in every which way.  Not only did Mad Bum outduel him on the mound with 7 great innings of ball, but he also took him deep for part of a 5 run 5th inning hitting his first career homerun and grand slam.  Ruben Tejada was the only one to get to Mad Bum with a solo homerun. Ike Davis gathered a hit off the tough lefty which is an encouraging sign.

HiA – St. Lucie Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St. Lucie 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 5 2 Brevard County 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 X 2 5 0 Recap | Box | W: Willinsky (5-2, 3.18); L: Shaw, S (4-6, 3.75); SV: Henderson (2) HR: STL: Havens (9).

Another nice game since returning from the DL for Reese Havens.  Havens had the only multi hit game including his 9th homerun of the year in just 204 at-bats.  Bad night on the basepaths with Brahiam Maldonado and Kirk Nieuwenhuis getting caught stealing.  Decent night pitching for Scott Shaw just a tad too many walks, but solid night overall.

LoA – Savannah Sand Gnats

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Savannah 1 2 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 7 9 0 West Virginia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 2 11 7 Recap | Box | W: Schwinden (7-5, 3.14); L: Leach (3-1, 2.58) HR: SAV: Gronauer (6).

Great night for Chris Schwinden.  By far Schwinden’s best night with the K’s striking out 10 Power on hte night and yeilding no walks and only 5 hits.  The rest of the pitchers outside of Tim Smith were spotless.  Kai Gronauer was the offensive star with a homerun and 3 RBIs.  Wilmer Flores also pitched in an RBI.

SSA – Brooklyn Cyclones

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Brooklyn 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 Vermont 0 2 0 0 0 0 X 2 2 0 Recap | Box | W: Stewart (2-1, 3.86); L: Fuller, J (3-3, 1.75) HR: None.

Ouch tough game for the offense, but nice job by Jim Fuller.

Game 2

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Brooklyn 2 4 0 0 1 0 0 7 7 1 Vermont 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 4 10 2 Recap | Box | | Game Story: VER W: McHugh (5-1, 4.11); L: Hicks (2-2, 6.31); SV: Powers (6) HR: None.

Much better job for the offense with just Robbie Shields (0-4, K) and Justin Garber (0-0 3BB RBI, 2 R) were the only batters who did not record a hit, but has you can see Garber had a nice game nontheless.

Rk1 – Kingsport Mets

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Kingsport 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 3 5 2 Pulaski 1 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 X 5 10 4 Recap | Box W: Tome (2-3, 7.43); L: Torres, Jh (0-2, 3.00); SV: Merry (1) HR: PUL: Britton 2 (5).

Rk2 – Kingsport Mets

OFF

• Carlos Beltran to the DL
• DFA Wilson Valdez and Ken Takahashi

AAA – Buffalo Bisons

• Fernando Martinez, of; Elmer Dessens, rhp; and Pat Misch, lhp promoted to MLB
• Released Willy Mo Pena, of and Javier Valentin, c

AA – Binghamton Mets

• Connor Robertson Released
• Send Emary Frederick, rhp and Jacob Ruckle, rhp to St. Lucie (HiA)

HiA – St. Lucie Mets

• Promote Ike Davis, 1b to AA Binghamton
• Activate Reese Havens from DL
• Add John Maine, rhp and Oliver Perez, lhp
• Add Jordan Abruzzo, c from extended spring training
• Mike Nickeas, c off AAA DL and sent to Binghamton.
• Julio De La Cruz, rhp  on Binghamton DL.

RK – Kingsport Mets

• Ryan Coultas, rhp and Eric Niesen, lhp transfered to AA

… The ony move I really question here is the release of Willy Mo Pena I thought he was definitely going to contribute on the major league level before the end of the year would be interested to hear the Mets thought process on that one.  And the release of Robertson solidifes the idea that dealing Scott Show in the off season was stricly salary dump reasons…